Den bästa historiska filmen

[Johan Elisson]

Med mitt VG i tyska ska jag försöka översätta!

Steiner, Järnkorset, del 1

Kort beskrivning:

Fimlen berättare en dramatisk historia från andra världskrigets dagar. I medelpunkten står Feldwebeln och plutonledaren (jag e urkass på beteckningar...) Steiner, en man, som där skräck och galenskap råder, får en livserfarenhet. Efter en avgörande strid hamnar han med sitt folk bakom ryssarnas linjer. I en blodig strid, man mot man, försöker han bryta sig igenom med sina soldater för att nå de egna ställningarna.

Steiner, Järnkorset, del 2

Kort beskrivning:

R Burton, R Mitchum och C Jürgens är stjärnorna i medelpunkten av en krigsskådeplats sommaren 1944. Tyska och allierade underofficerare vill förhindra vidare meningslösa förluster. Med historisk precision erinras de värsta dagarna i tysk historia.

/Johan

[Mats]

Tack för det!

Gamla Pug var med i 2:an alltså. Burton är bra också. Får se om jag hittar den nånstans. Har just beställt Das Boot och The Eagle has Landed. Det får räcka denna månad .

[virdung]

Haller med Andreas Wien, Vinterkriget maste vara en av mina favoriter... Har dock inte sett valdigt manga krigsfilmer (forutom om Vietnamkriget etc.) men denna maste nog raknas som en av mina favoriter

[Johan Elisson]

Mats:

Nemas problemas! Behöver ändå öva tyskan lite då och då!

/Johan
webmaster of wwiilexicon.cjb.net

[Andreas Wien]

"Come and See" och "Vinterkriget"

Om ni nagongang skulle hitta dessa filmer i nagon videobutik -Hyr dem!











From the Back Cover
A crowning achievement of 1980's Soviet cinema, Elem Klimov's Come and See is perhaps the ultimate WWII film. This savage and lyrical fever dream of death, rage and terror experienced through young eyes is a virtual primer for the subsequent, similarly psychedelic intensity of Terrence Malick's "The thin Red Line" and Spielberg's "Saving Private Ryan," Klimov's elegant, harrowing union of unflinching ferocity and dreamlike clarity moved "Empire of the Sun" author J.G. Ballard to declare Come And See the greatest war film ever made. Time Out New York agreed, saying "Come And See's nimble balance of the sordid with the elegiac makes Peckinpah's 'Cross of Iron' seem like 'Newsies.' When young Florya willingly joins a group of Partisans fighting the Nazis in Byelorussia, USSR, he little suspects that he is plunging through the looking glass. Separated from his comrades during a paratroop attack and struck deaf by German artillery, Florya - in the company of Glascha, a beguiling peasant girl - wanders a battle-scorched Russian purgatory of prehistoric forests and man-made slaughter. Florya's journey takes him and us through a gallery of exquisitely poetic imagery and brutal human atrocity. Unlike traditional war films, Come And See never stoops to convenient heroic catharsis or genre movie narrative symmetry. Images of a beautiful girl's impromptu dance in the rain and an SS unit's spontaneous, self-congratulatory applause at their own butchery haunt with equal power. More than any other war film, Come And See unites the powerful truths and inescapable dilemmas that lurk behind both the raptures of youth and the horrors of war.












"Vinterkriget"
from Winston-Salem, NC United States. The Winter War is the most historically accurate and realistic war film I have seen. During the film, we follow the lives of a small group of friends as they find themselves in the frontlines facing a soviet invasion. All aspects of the movie are well conceived and finely filmed. The best aspect of the Winter War, however, is the fact that there are no underlying subplots. Unlike Saving Private Ryan (which I must admit I also thought was excellent), the characters do not spend the movie attempting to accomplish an unlikely (albeit intellectually satisfying) objective. Rather, the characters try to stay alive, protect their friends, and follow orders as real soldiers might. Another very compelling aspect of the film is it's historical accuracy. Tactics and equipment all correspond to those employed by Russia and Finland in 1939. T-26 tanks, I-16 fighters, and human wave attacks fill out the Russian Arsenal, while the Fins remain on the defensive aside from local counter attacks. Adding to the realism is the fact that much of movie is filmed in a limited geographic area. This allows the viewer to become familiar with local terrain features in a way that few other films permit. Hence, the viewer begins to sense the directions from which attacks might come and beings to get a feeling of what constitutes a "Full-scale Attack," a "Probe," etc. Overall, I would highly recommend the Winter War to anyone who enjoys war films or who is interested in Military History. Due to the lack of subplots, however, people simply looking for an action film or for a simple diversion are likely to be disappointed.


Reviewer: sirdragunov from NEW YORK, as far as military movies go, the winter war is as good as it gets. the movie hardley misses a point. the action scenes are great and (imagine this) historically accurate! the combination really develops. the smallarms, vehicles, fighters and bombers were all loaned from a museum in russia and the tactics were re-inacted from the actual russo-finish war veterans on both sides. be right there in the trenches as you get strafed by fighters, shelled from artillery and fired at by snipers. you hardly want to look down to read the subtitles as you may miss the action (incidentially, there is a finnish-only version approximately 1 hour longer in length). 100% accurately depicted and well acted. highly recomended from a hard sell military buff.don't wait to buy it used, it's worth every cent brand new and if you liked it as much as i did, you'll wear it
out anyway.


Reviewer: Ms. Youko Nose from MUSASHINO-SHI, Tokyo Japan I saw this at a film festival years ago, expecting little, and was just awed by it's unembellished view of war. I've since seen it again on video and this has only reinforced the fact that in the years since, having seen many, many other documentaries and war films, this still remains the best. Superb characterisation, pace, and tight directing. Never short of action; it doesn't ever become maudlin, boring, or jingoistic. The Actors are regular people, just like the soldiers who fought in this War; and the desperation and determination of tiny Finland holding back Russia is palpable and made utterly and frighteningly credible. Many have tried to make the "definitive" war movie, but none have succeeded like this Director with this Film! Peckinpah comes close with "Cross Of Iron". Purely and simply a benchmark for War films, and a Masterpiece of filmmaking.

Mvh Andreas Wien

[tobbe]

Synd att de inte har släppt dessa filmer på dvd.

[B Hellqvist]

Synd att de inte har släppt dessa filmer på dvd.

"Järnkorset" finns i varje fall på 89-kronors-DVD (på Siba och liknande ställen)...

[Andreas Lärka]

Synd att de inte har släppt dessa filmer på dvd.

"Talvisota" - Vinterkriget finns på DVD, det gör också "Tuntematon Sotilas" - Okänd Soldat samt "Rukajärven Tie" - "Ambush" (häng översättaren...)

Alla torde även ha svensk text. Ifall det finns någon här som inte kan finska...

Andreas Lärka
Borgnäs, Finland

[Finnrocker]

Den ryska filmen Come and See finns faktiskt på DVD i en intressant region 1 utgåva. Första gången jag såg filmen på 80-talet så berörde den mig väldigt mycket fastän jag såg den på rysk TV och min ryska begränsas till endast några ord. Men filmen berättar mycket med bilder så det spelade ingen roll.

[J von B]

Vet inte om någon här har sett Band of Brothers, det är en miniserie i 10 delar som bygger på Stephen E. Ambrose's bok Band of Brothers och följer Company E "Easy" från utbildningen i USA vidare till Normandie samt slutar i Österrike efter krigets slut. Steven Spielberg - Tom Hanks är seriens executive producers, men Hanks har regisserat del 5 och Spielberg ingen. Dock så känner den som sett Saving Private Ryan igen sig med kamerafilter och påkostade effekter.

Kronologi:

Del 1 - Träning i camp Toccoa, Georgia.
Del 2 - D-day.
Del 3 - Strider vid franska staden Carentan.
Del 4 - "Operation Market Garden" i Holland.
Del 5 - Holland strider nära Arnhem, upptakt till Ardenner offensiven.
Del 6 - Bastogne, Belgien.
Del 7 - Intar staden Foy i Belgien under svåra förluster.
Del 8 - Haguenau, Alsace
Del 9 - Intar tyska städerna: Sturzelburg, Buchloe och Thalham.
Del 10 - Intar Berchtesgaden slutar i Zell am See

Detta är ingen produktion som Stalingrad eller When Trumpets Fade som går djupare, utan mer av en hjälteförklaring. Men avsnitten har väldigt välgjorda stridscener. Klart sevärt!

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MVH
/Johan

[tobbe]

"Järnkorset" finns i varje fall på 89-kronors-DVD (på Siba och liknande ställen)...

Järnkorset har jag redan.

[subskipper]

Ingen som vet var man kan hitta "Come and See" på VHS?




~Henric Edwards

[Andreas Wien]

Henric,

Kolla in http://www.amazon.com

eller...

http://www.amazon.uk.co

Välj sedan VHS och "Come and See"! Obs under krigsfilm hittar man den inte. Försök även med regisörens namn "Elem Klimov"

Mvh Andreas Wien

[Andreas Wien]

Henric,

Se upp!

• NTSC format (US and Canada only)

Mvh Andreas Wien

[subskipper]

Tackar! Hoppas jag hinner kombinera Come and See med mina bokbeställningar, annars får det vänta ett tag till.




~Henric Edwards