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Tusen tack sveahk - för att du lyfte den ''ur glömskans djup'' !
Tack unmo300! Har aldrig hört talas om Robert Gustavsson - men instämmer hjärtligt med om....unmo300 skrev:Helt övertid här, men när Varjag för PC-maffian på tal så gav komikern Robert Gustavsson uttryck för samman tankar i Skavlan (ett av de få program man kan se på SVTPlay i utlandet), där han sa att det förekommer en utbredd PK-fascism i Sverige. Kanske bara en komiker kan komma undan med sådana kommentarer.
Varpå detta forum, är ett mycket konformistiskt exempel.....att det förekommer en utbredd PK-fascism i Sverige
Amen!Varpå detta forum, är ett mycket konformistiskt exempel.....![]()
Tack currahee - för mycket läsvärd text!
Fullträff HJ! Bilden är av YUGIRI, som i likhet med HATSUYUKI tappade förskeppet - att dom fortfarande flöt , var ett Herrans under....HJ skrev:Kan det röra sig om japanska "fjärde flottan" som under övning den 26 september 1935 råkade ut för en tyfon som skadade åtskilliga fartyg klart mer än väntat. Jagarna Hatsuyuki och Yugiri, kryssarna Myoko och Mogami samt hangarfartygen Hōshō och Ryujo drabbades av olika skador som kunde kopplas till alltför hög tyngdpunkt (tunga kanoner och stor överbyggnad) samt ännu ej utvecklad svetsteknik.
/Håkan
HJ äger frågan!26 September 1935:
Near dawn the Red or "Fourth Fleet" is about 100 miles off the east coast of Northern Honshu and steering southerly when it is alerted that a large typhoon has blown up to the south and is advancing toward them at 70-80km/hour over a 200 mile front. There is neither time nor sea room to get clear of such a wide storm, so the Fleet has no choice but to batten hatches and attempt to ride it out. Course is maintained heading obliquely into the storm, and speed cut to 10 knots. A situation analagous to the famous Typhoon Cobra that struck the USN's Task Force 38 off Luzon in December 1944 now ensues. Moving rapidly northeast the center engulfs the fleet at about 1300 hours. Sustained wind speeds of 79 knots are recorded with wave heights from 45-60 feet.
The conditions are tailor-made to put the strength of the new structural designs and construction methods of the Imperial Navy to maximum test. From the fleet's big carriers to its destroyers both categories are found wanting. The forward part of HOSHO's flight deck is wrecked, and the bridge located under the overhang there is smashed. HOSHO also loses steering for a time. The bridge of the newer and larger RYUJO, also at the head of the ship and under the flight deck, is stove in. The windows are warped at the corners at both the port and starboard sides. The pounding seas also breach seams in the shell plating, and RYUJO's hangar deck experiences flooding.
There were no battleships present, but the powerful new heavy cruisers MYOKO and MOGAMI also suffer major structural damage. MYOKO had rivets amidships loosened and several compartments consequently flooded. However the the damage was relatively minor, and it would be noted how riveting had stood the stresses of the storm better. MOGAMI again has distortion similar to what had happened in March - the forward part of the ship buckling from ruptured welds so the forward turrets became unuseable. Sister-ship MIKUMA suffers similar, but less severely. The hull of the big submarine tender TAIGEI -- (in the future converted to aircraft carrier RYUHO) -- develops serious cracks in her all-electrically welded hull. Minelayer ITSUKUSHIMA's frame is so buckled that she comes close to being a constructive total loss. As it is the repairs are so extensive as to almost constitute a full rebuild as her welding is replaced with riveting.
Worst of all was the stresses and ordeal endured by the destroyers. Some of the fleet's FUBUKI-class report rolls up to 75 degrees. That they had not capsized like TOMOZURU is a miracle. But terrible damage is suffered nonetheless. The storm had been at its height for nearly an hour and half when at 1410 a wave crushes the bridge of MUTSUKI, damages the forward tubes, and No. 2 funnel. Sister-ship MOCHIZUKI also has her bridge crushed. AKIKAZE's bridge is warped by waves as well. The bigger "Special Type" FUBUKI-class suprisingly fares worse. Around 1400 YUGIRI's bridge windows are also smashed. She struggles on, but at 1602 the entire bow section forward of the bridge snaps cleanly right off as if severed by a knife. She loses 21 men. HATSUYUKI is similarly battered and at 1729 while riding atop a high pyramidal waves, HATSUYUKI's bow too, shears off. Much like with YUGIRI, the forward turret and all carried away just forward of the base of the bridge and the port lifeboat there is left dangling from its davits precariously over a vertical drop into the sea. Twenty-eight of her company are missing. The point of break on both FUBUKI-class destroyers is so neary identical as to look the same in photographs; a clear indicator of a common weak point. After losing their bows both destroyers have to wallow helpless in the troughs until the storm lessens. Only then can tows be arranged and the two bow-less destroyers able to be towed home, stern first. Another of the class, USHIO, had a close-call: her entire fantail was so weakened it was likely it would have broken off had the typhoon lasted longer. As many as thirteen other destroyers - SHIRYUKI, USUGUMO, MURAKUMO, SHIRAKUMO, AMAGIRI, OBORO, AKEBONO, KIKUZUKI, MINATSUKI, HOKAZE, YUZUKI, HARUKAZE and ASAKAZE - are damaged and beat up by wind and wave, albeit to less degree. A total of 54 sailors are missing or lost between all the ships, most of them from YUGIRI and HATSUYUKI, and five from other ships. Some 60 men are injured, including ComDesdiv 30 aboard MUTSUKI.